marklungo wrote:Well, fandom in general is full of people who like to speculate about the relationships of their favorite characters. In SWAT Kats' case, the show has several LGBT fans, some of whom have fantasized about T-Bone And Razor's already close relationship becoming something more. It's not surprising that they would want to see someone like themselves in one of their favorite series.
That's perfectly fine...but that's the stuff you keep to yourself and don't demand it to become cannon. I'm sure the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise has gay fans, but interestingly I don't remember them demanding a gay romantic relatinship between Sonic and Tails becoming cannon...Why would gays be so special that the creators have to cater to them, when the series hasn't been meant to be that way?
marklungo wrote:Tarnish wrote:Being gay doesn't make anybody special,
Actually, it kind of does, since gays are a significant minority.
To that, I only have this picture to show:
marklungo wrote:Tarnish wrote:it isn't a good thing by itself that has to be highlighted and showcased. Gays can still be awful people, so making a "positive LGBT representation" wouldn't suddenly make every gay person suddenly something to look up to and admire.
Every group, like every individual, has its share of good and bad. The problem is that LGBT people, like other minorities, have been either ignored or negatively stereotyped in the media until recently, which is why many fans want to balance the scales.
I wouldn't really call someone using their favorite cartoon as a tool and means to fight their moral and ethical battle with a 'fan', but that's just me. Is a childrens cartoon really the best medium and tool through to achieve all this?
marklungo wrote:Tarnish wrote:Whereas showing positive character traits (heroism, bravery, self-sacrifice, honesty, persistence, loyalty, etc.), at least in my opinion, is far more important to highlight and showcase, because those are without question positive things that are worth admiring. Character traits, motivation, goals are what makes a character interesting and likeable...not sexual orientation.
In an ideal world, I wouldn't have much of a problem with this statement. But in the real world, LGBT people are killed and victimized just for being LGBT. And for far too long, gays (like other minorities) have been denied the chance to be heroes in fiction, so now both fans and pros want to make up for that.
Again, is your favorite cartoon the best tool to achieve all that? A show that first needs to prove itself it can be a profitable venture in todays age, after it has been off air and discontinued for 23 years? Why not aim at an already established cartoon series which proved itself already and already has a large audience and demand gay characters there? Would make a lot more sense to me.
And just to clarify: I don't have a problem with gays. I don't see them special in any way either tho, that would justify them needing or getting special treatment or attention. They have to prove themselves like any other person. And it might just be me, but your sexual orientation is something I think everybody should keep to themselfes..just because you can spread that information on the Internet to the world, doesn't mean you have to..
The problem I have is trying to inject (or lets just cleary say it: force) gay representation into a children's cartoon that was never about gays or sexual orientation in any way..had it had a gay character in it from the very beginning, fine, but trying to force one (or more) into it now..are gays really that insecure that they need acknowledgment coming from a children's show? Would the show be unwatchable without it?
If you want to represent gays or whatever, fine, do that in your own work or creations...but don't demand others to do it in their work and/or creations...