Mr. Goodkat wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:27 pm
Please don't get me wrong, I'm also quite disappointed about the Tremblay's actions, but I don't see why this seems to have such a negative effect on our fandom which is mostly build on discussion about the original show and an impressive amount of fanworks. Why should this the reason for this fandom to turn sour? It would be quite sad if that happens.
From where I'm sitting, talking with others, many who did, and many who did not participate in the Kickstarter, the reason for the souring isn't due to the Kickstarter itself, but due to a feeling on the disappointed side that they're being regarded as doomsaying troublemakers for wanting accountability, or at least transparency, and a worry that not bringing the Tremblays to account over their failure to even begin production of the promised trailer long after the goal for it has been reached is basically letting them slide. The plain and simple fact is, a trailer was promised once a certain amount of money was raised, and even though that amount has been reached and
surpassed some time ago, not only has this trailer not materialized, apparently, work has not even begun
on it. I believe they also promised they'd discuss details about Revolution
along the way, something else they haven't really done.
On the disappointed side, this is seen as inexcusable, and, what's more, they (we, really) are sort of scratching heads about why this isn't riling more people up. We're not asking for an angry mob with torches and pitchforks. Just a little weirded out that nobody else seems concerned about the delay and dissatisfied with the Tremblays' reasons for it, and now this, which amounts to a complete and total shutdown of communication regarding anything involving Revolution
. We're concerned that not holding the brothers to account on this matter is basically telling them that not following through on the Kickstarter's very clearly stated goals is okay, and that any old excuse will do.
This is what I think, from my own personal observations and my interactions with other fans who are disappointed in how the Kickstarter's is progressing (or, rather, isn't
progressing). Yes, Christian and Yvon are the creators of the show we all love, they seem like, honestly, nice guys, and they've been more than generous to me personally (thanks for the signed Dr. Viper figure, guys!) and to the fandom as a whole with such a wealth of behind the scenes material from the series (we wouldn't have the scripts/outlines for the three unfinished episodes without them), but this doesn't mean we can't ask them to explain themselves when we feel that they're dragging their feet, or be unsatisfied with the answers they give. The other problem, briefly mentioned above, is that the ones who are growing uneasy with Revolution
's lack of progress and updates feel like we're being treated as ungrateful, troublemaking rabble-rousers by the rest of the fandom, when nothing could be further from the truth; we want Revolution
to happen as much as anyone, we're just less inclined to give the Tremblays as much wiggle-room as others are because we are not satisfied with the frankly kinda vague answers they've been giving.
MoDaD wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:57 pm
It is worth noting that this reason has been given for over two years.
And it's an answer the disappointed side isn't entirely satisfied with, especially after all this time, however true it may be. That's all I'm asking people thinking we're just being naysayers to realize. I can see it disrupting production of the actual show, but not necessarily the trailer. The trailer, I assume, can be done relatively quickly by using the Kickstarter money to pay an independent animator or studio to do it, which is what I, personally, believed the Kickstarter money was for
. If the problems that they mention are so pervasive that it means even the promised trailer can't get made after two years, then this doesn't give us on the disappointed side very high hopes of ever seeing it, much less the actual show it's intended to promote. And if this problem is so pervasive, what happens when the donations reach the next goal: the production of one full-length episode? Does anyone see why we're a little nervous about this?