Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, MoDaD (I'm curious if others gonna do that too).
Your answer to my "Golden Age"-question was quite interesting to read, since I've got active in this fandom only about a year ago and thus didn't take part in these events.
Mr. Goodkat wrote:Do the images I've commissioned look too common (missing a personal touch) for the majority of people to really notice them?
I'll follow-up on this at a later time as there's something I've commissioned that could be pertinent to this once the artist has completed it.
I'm already curious about what you gonna post.
MoDaD wrote:[...] Anything visual is almost always a plus [...]
That's an interesting comment and I've planned to go into this more detailed in a later post.
Mr. Goodkat wrote:Or even worse, isn't it appealing to them, because this may have happened in too many fan fiction stories already?
Ty-Chou wrote a very in-depth piece about the perils of writing, in her terms, "Mary Sue" fan fiction and ways to combat the stigma and even improve upon the genre.
I've faced this test shortly after Ty-Chou posted it here in the forum
and I've answered the questions with Yes
as honest as possible.
For those (like me) who never heard of Mary Sue before: you might want to take a look at this article at Wikipedia
Here is the list of all questions I've answered with Yes
and I also added comments why I did answer them this way:
Does the character have your hair color or style?
I have to admit that the idea for Matthew's shirt is based on one which I actually own.
Does the character know one of the canon characters from school/childhood?
Matthew knew Hard Drive when he was younger, but he doesn't recognize him at first when they meet again.
Do they have a very tragic past when they were children?
Both worked together as hackers for fun, but when Hard Drive became greedy Matthew ended the friendship and betrayed Hard Drive (at least from Hard Drive's point of view).
Is your character in the first scene in the story?
He's a speaker at the press conference at the beginning.
Is your character either present or mentioned in every single scene of your story?
Maybe not in every single scene, but in the majority of scenes.
Does the entire plot evolve around your character?
Matthew's AI and his "relationship" to it as well as Chance's excitement about Matthew's video game are very important key elements for the plot.
Do they become the third SWAT Kat?
No doubt about that one
, although I tried to keep a certain distance between them ("We're gonna contact you when we need your abilities.").
Do they save another character's life?
Together with Professor Hackle he saves T-Bone and Razor from the drones at some point.
Do they save the city from certain destruction and the SWAT Kats could have never done it without them?
He destroys his AI in order to save the citizens of Megakat City and he's the only one who was able to go into Cyberspace (being at the right place at the right time).
Do you plan to write many more stories revolving around your character?
If I would write another SK story Matthew/Specter would probably play an important role again.
Score: 16 / 120
I didn't take a look at these result categories before I had completed answering the questions:
- 1-10: You have avoided most of the overused Mary Sue tropes. You're likely to be giving the readers something they haven't seen before.
- 11-18: Getting into dangerous territory. Check your plot and how you portray your character. See if there's some changes you can do to make the story more original.
- 19-26: Your character and story have quite a few over used ideas. Time to take it back to the drawing board and think of something we haven't already seen 100 times before.
- 27+: Major Mary Sue-ness. If you are not willing to change your story for the better, then please don't post it anywhere. We don't want to read it. There's too many fics exactly like it online already.
Hmm, looks like I'm right in the middle of some dangerous territory here.
It's interesting to see how quickly you can get into that region, having in mind that these are only 10 out of 69 questions.
When I did another run on the remaining questions I've also picked those which needed some explanation from me why I've answered them with a No
Are you so obsessed with your character's appearance that you forget to describe anyone else?
No, although I only described the new characters (Matthew and Lt. Sawet) as much as necessary to imagine them, because I assumed that the regulars are known well enough... I was just lazy, alright?!
Can they fly any aircraft despite no previously mentioned training?
No, but he flies an imagined Turbokat (and also rides on an imagined Cyclotron) in Cyberspace however. So, does this count nonetheless?
So what happens when I'm being hard at myself and count these as a Yes
Score: 18 / 120
Phew! Close, but it would still be in the same category.
Although I'm in dangerous territory according to that test, it seems that I was still able to avoid just doing things which have already been done 100 times before. Guess that's quite okay, having in mind that this is the very first fan fiction story I ever written.
Now that I'm aware of this test, let me add another question to the ones in my previous post (I know that I might be asking for a beating with this one
Is Matthew/Specter a Mary Sue (or rather a Marty Stu) in your opinion?