Failure to Launch: Reorienting after the Revolution That Wasn't

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Re: Failure to Launch: Reorienting after the Revolution That Wasn't

Post by Kooshmeister » Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:45 pm

Yeah, but do they really? I thought the money was to make the trailer themselves, presumably by paying someone to animate it (using the Kickstarter money). It was never mentioned that they'd need a third party.
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Re: Failure to Launch: Reorienting after the Revolution That Wasn't

Post by Rusakov » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:52 pm

Kooshmeister wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:45 pm
Yeah, but do they really? I thought the money was to make the trailer themselves, presumably by paying someone to animate it (using the Kickstarter money). It was never mentioned that they'd need a third party.
They might be playing it by ear, they've probably never tried to get a series back up and running (especially one from almost 30 years ago).

At any rate, my friend came back with more information on Netflix.

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Might not solve the lack of producers, but maybe somebody in contact with them could run it by them?
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Re: Failure to Launch: Reorienting after the Revolution That Wasn't

Post by Echo » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:58 pm

That would be Modad's department.
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Re: Failure to Launch: Reorienting after the Revolution That Wasn't

Post by MoDaD » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:31 pm

Rusakov wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:52 pm
They might be playing it by ear, they've probably never tried to get a series back up and running (especially one from almost 30 years ago).

At any rate, my friend came back with more information on Netflix.

How to Sell a TV Show to Netflix

Netflix: Request TV Shows or Movies

Might not solve the lack of producers, but maybe somebody in contact with them could run it by them?
They aren't disclosing who they've already talked with. Tremblay Bros. Studios has elected to conduct their process out of public view.

So, hypothetically speaking, even if they did approach Jason DeMarco at Toonami, or even if they did approach Melissa Cobb at Netflix, or if they had repeated meetings with Village Roadshow Pictures, or if they lost out on a deal with Teletoon, or if Warner Bros. has filed counter-claims over rights, they wouldn't be saying anything about it.

The Tremblays have their way of doing things, and this project (SWAT-Kats Revolution) will either succeed or die according to that.

Christian Tremblay stated that he thinks this project is still within his expected time table of 5 to 7 years, though this is a much longer estimate than was previously given.

But, as Erico has already mentioned (and everyone can recall/view for themselves), a trailer was part of the Kickstarter: a clear goal tier that was met and has yet to be delivered upon. And, if the issues concerning rights are still as described here, it should have been achievable by now.

As has been previously mentioned, you are free to contact Tremblay Bros. Studios directly here to provide your suggestions and to inquire about the status of the SWAT-Kats Revolution trailer.
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Re: Failure to Launch: Reorienting after the Revolution That Wasn't

Post by MoDaD » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:34 pm

Following-up on one of Erico's comments regarding Terms of Service:
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Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:51 pm
So, my proposal is this: We send them a message, telling them that unless they make good on SOME of their Kickstarter goals by June 1st of 2019, that Megakat City, as the voice and representative of the SWAT Kats fandom and online community, will take steps with Kickstarter through their Terms of Service to push for a full refund of the backer's money after that day. If they are unable or unwilling to deliver something MEANINGFUL about the new project in 6 months, after 3 YEARS of our patience and goodwill, then they are either unable to, or unwilling to.
For reference, here is the section of Kickstarter's Terms of Use related to this: 4. How Projects Work
Kickstarter provides a funding platform for creative projects. When a creator posts a project on Kickstarter, they’re inviting other people to form a contract with them. Anyone who backs a project is accepting the creator’s offer, and forming that contract.

Kickstarter is not a part of this contract — the contract is a direct legal agreement between creators and their backers. Here are the terms that govern that agreement:

When a project is successfully funded, the creator must complete the project and fulfill each reward. Once a creator has done so, they’ve satisfied their obligation to their backers.

Throughout the process, creators owe their backers a high standard of effort, honest communication, and a dedication to bringing the project to life. At the same time, backers must understand that when they back a project, they’re helping to create something new — not ordering something that already exists. There may be changes or delays, and there’s a chance something could happen that prevents the creator from being able to finish the project as promised.

If a creator is unable to complete their project and fulfill rewards, they’ve failed to live up to the basic obligations of this agreement. To right this, they must make every reasonable effort to find another way of bringing the project to the best possible conclusion for backers. A creator in this position has only remedied the situation and met their obligations to backers if:
  • they post an update that explains what work has been done, how funds were used, and what prevents them from finishing the project as planned;
  • they work diligently and in good faith to bring the project to the best possible conclusion in a timeframe that’s communicated to backers;
  • they’re able to demonstrate that they’ve used funds appropriately and made every reasonable effort to complete the project as promised;
  • they’ve been honest, and have made no material misrepresentations in their communication to backers; and
  • they offer to return any remaining funds to backers who have not received their reward (in proportion to the amounts pledged), or else explain how those funds will be used to complete the project in some alternate form.
The creator is solely responsible for fulfilling the promises made in their project. If they’re unable to satisfy the terms of this agreement, they may be subject to legal action by backers.
Areas highlighted in red that are assumed to be being referred to as the problems/unmet criteria.

In this scenario, an area that may be in question is whether or not the goal tier of "trailer" is defined as a "reward" within the context of the arrangement, as donors received specific rewards according to their respective levels of financial contribution, but areas concerning project status and completion are likely in-effect and possibly actionable.

It is also worth noting that Kickstarter absolves itself of liability, and that due to the nature of the legal agreement being defined as strictly between backers and creators, it would appear that the only "real" consequence that could be levied is a class action lawsuit, as there's not really any other kind of leverage to be drawn upon. And, I'm not sure that's an area that most SWAT Kats fans would want to tread in (but, I can't speak for everyone).
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